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  1. #451
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    Cita Iniciado por Paco Galindo Ver Mensaje
    desembucha!!!! aunque me imagino que no puedes, pájaro!!!

    poco puedo decir salvo que es una pasada. Prefiero no meter la gamba


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    He leído en el foro de ED que se retrasa la salida 24 horas porque no se había tenido en cuenta el tiempo que se toman los de ED para probar sus cositas, ¿es cierto? Mas que nada para ponerme a otras cosas en lugar de estar compulsivamente apretando F5.

    Otro tema, farma -si no te pongo en un compromiso, si es así me mandas al carajo y listo- ¿qué carajo es el EFM y en qué se diferencia con el modelo de DCS? Ye que a veces soy mu cortico de entendederas...
    Lástima que ella no pueda vivir pero, ¿quien vive?

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    Otro tema, farma -si no te pongo en un compromiso, si es así me mandas al carajo y listo- ¿qué carajo es el EFM y en qué se diferencia con el modelo de DCS? Ye que a veces soy mu cortico de entendederas...
    Sacado de aqui ->DCS Product Terms - ED Forums

    The below is provided to explain the various fidelity levels of flight dynamics and cockpit systems modeling available in our various DCS aircraft simulation products. We provide this to you to help better understand what your are purchasing:

    Standard Flight Model (SFM). This has not changed and defines a more data-driven means of achieving flight dynamics, in conjunction with some scripting. SFM was used in the Lock On series and is still used in the Flaming Cliffs 3 Su-33 and MiG-29. However, we do plan to update these at a later time.

    Advanced Flight Model (AFM) and AFM+. An AFM uses multiple points of force application and calculation on the relevant flight surfaces. This simulates edge of envelope conditions well and avoids scripted behaviors as used in an SFM. This system also partially implements the aircraft's flight augmentation systems. DCS aircraft that use AFM includes the Su-25T. A further evolution of the AFM is what we term the AFM+ and this uses the same calculations as AFM but adds limited modeling of the hydraulic and fuel systems. Examples of AFM+ in DCS include the Su-25 and A-10A.

    Professional Flight Model (PFM). This is generations beyond an AFM/AFM+ and is based upon:

    • Use a wider array of wind tunnel tests CFD methods for aerodynamics parameters calculations.
    • A higher level of aircraft construction details for forces calculations. For example: our landing gear model includes individual kinematics of retracting/extending is used to calculate its movement, servo-piston forces, etc. In such cases, we truly use real lengths, arms, etc. This also includes such items as a realistic simulation of airflow along the airframe due to the propeller or helicopter rotor thrust.
    • Realistic simulation of Flight Control, CAS and Autopilot systems.
    • Realistic simulation of Hydraulics, Fuel, Electrical, Engine and other systems influence flight characteristics.
    • Unprecedented access to test data packs.

    This is combined with much more detailed and accurate accounting of the physical forces on the aircraft and airfoils. DCS examples of the PFM include the A-10C, Ka-50, P-51D, UH-1H, Mi-8MTV2, F-15C and Su-27 (in development) for DCS Flaming Cliffs, and the Fw190-D9 (in development).

    External Flight Model (EFM). Used by our partner developers, the EFM uses only a part of PFM - rigid body physics and contact model. What forces and moments are applied to this rigid body from aerodynamics and any other sources except the contact forces is up to EFM developer.

    Standard Systems Modeling (SSM). A DCS module using SSM is characterized as including just the most essential cockpit systems and using keyboard and joystick commands only to interact with the cockpit. Examples of SSM in DCS include all of the Flaming Cliffs 3 aircraft.

    Advanced Systems Modeling (ASM). An ASM enabled aircraft goes into great depth to model the intricacies of the various cockpit systems, to include functionality for almost all the buttons, switches, dials, etc. A key element of an ASM cockpit is the ability to interact with it using your mouse. ASM DCS examples include the A-10C, Ka-50, P-51D, UH-1H and Mi-8MTV2.

    In the coming weeks, we will be updating our store pages to use these product definitions.
    Y el C101 sera inicialmente SFM vamos lo que viene siendo físicas de vuelo a la altura del FC original y luego sera AFM pero tardaran mas info en el siguiente enlace.

    ED Forums - View Single Post - AvioDev C-101 Release Announcement

    Un saludo.

  4. #454
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    He oído que para el AFM tendremos que volver a pasar por caja?
    Alas que no empujan, no son alas.
    YouTube | Flickr | HeliBlog | AviationCorner | 500px


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    Pues muchas gracias por la aclaración.


    Enviado desde mi iPad utilizando Tapatalk
    Lástima que ella no pueda vivir pero, ¿quien vive?

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    pues creo que el 101 no caera, si no es "pata negra" ni me molesto

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    Creo que la información expuesta por Joseti aclarará las dudas sobre los modos. Me gustaría también aclarar que yo no pertenezco al equipo de desarrollo del C101, simplemente conozco a unos de los desarrolladores y tengo contacto con el por temas en el q el C101 está involucrado. En concreto la PAV.


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    Total, ya es 17 y aún no ha salido...
    Alas que no empujan, no son alas.
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    Post de uno de los developers de aviodev.

    We have been receiving similar questions from many people. So we are going to try to clarify and bring some light. Feel free to post any question pending from your side regarding DCS:C-101.


    DCS: C-101 FAQ
    ------------------------------

    Are you selling two versions of the product with SFM and AFM?

    We have been discussing this a lot recently in AvioDev, and also with ED, to find the best way to proceed. Also we have been paying attention to all your comments.

    There won't be two versions. DCS:C-101 will be upgrade to AFM which will be included in the product.

    So what items include DCS:C-101 product?

    DSC:C-101 is sell as a full-pack and will be comprised by:
    - C-101EB Trainer version (released initially with SFM)
    - C-101CC Light Attack version (coming after EB and with SFM)
    - AFM upgrade for C-101EB and C-101CC (SFM won't be available anymore)

    Which will be the price for DCS:C-101?

    ED is releasing an official press release very soon, where the price will be available.

    What the AFM is bringing?

    There is already a great work on the aircraft, with the model, textures and advanced systems modelled, you already have a very capable simulator. The AFM is just going to complete the piece, with advanced aerodynamics and advanced engine model, the DCS:C-101 it will become a powerful and deep hardcore simulator.

    Are you planning training missions, tutorials etc. ?

    Yes, we are planing a training plan, because we feel the C-101 has a lot of potential for this purpose. We are discussing if we should do it now, or wait for the AFM release, to make what we want from the beginning without remove anything and waste resources. We think this is an specific area, where is possible to do something very interestiing.

    I'm watching some videos with abnormal ADI behavior, is it a bug?

    No, it is not. The C-101 has an old system called TARSYN, to give information to ADI and HSI. On aerobatic flight or aggressive maneuvers, the gyroscopes cannot follow the maneuvers, and starts to drag some errors. So ADI is not trustable for aerobatic flight on C-101, and reference from the horizon compared with parts of the aircraft it's the only way. We wanted to capture this kind of details in our project. For IFR it should be ok.

    Are you releasing a skin template?

    Yes, we want to release a template to customize your liveries. It won't be available for the release but in the next weeks.

    What kind of documentation is coming with the product?

    First document to be released it's going to be the Quick Start Guide in english, followed by the spanish version.

    Later manual in english and most probably in spanish it will be released to complete the documentation for the product.

    Extra documentation for training missions/plan it will be evaluated.
    DCS:C-101 FAQ - ED Forums

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    De momento, no está disponible para venta, pero han colgado una guía de arranque rápido de 15 páginas.

    También hay, en YT, un vídeo de Tuckie: BORKED

    Saludos.
    Para que triunfe el mal, sólo es necesario que los buenos no hagan nada (Edmund Burke)

 

 

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