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- 27/04/2011, 20:40 #1
Colision de un RYR en LEBL
Os dejo el articulo de la web de fomento del "besito" que se dieron un 737 de RYR y un 767.
14-04-2011. EI-EKB. Boeing 737-8AS. Aeropuerto de Barcelona - 2011 - Investigación - CIAIAC - Órganos Colegiados - Ministerio de Fomento
- 27/04/2011, 21:48 #2
- 09 feb, 11
Bueno, pues nada parte y al taller.
Eso si putada para los viajeros pq los dos vuelos debieron anularse.
- 27/04/2011, 22:30 #3
Que cosas, y nosotros sin enterarnos... Si hubiera sido Ryanair seguro que ya habría un post con 15 páginas... oh, wait...
- 27/04/2011, 22:44 #4
- 27/04/2011, 22:54 #5
y contra que se ha dado¿ un 767? de AA? de DA? no hay mas casi casi... o no era comercial?
aparte de eso alguien sabe pq se cancelo el PIA de hoy?Un Lannister siempre paga su queroseno
- 27/04/2011, 23:08 #6
Lo de un 380 hasta cierto punto se entiende, pero un 737, ya me dirás como.
- 28/04/2011, 12:35 #7
- 28/04/2011, 12:47 #8
- 28/04/2011, 12:53 #9vicenreigdGuest
Ya lo avisé en un post tb que hablabamos de Ryanair, recientemente.... pero no aparecia la noticia desarrollada.
Aunq mejor es esta....
Report: Ryanair B738 at Cork on Jul 22nd 2009, takeoff clearance despite vehicle on runway
A Ryanair Boeing 737-800, registration EI-EBE performing flight FR-9844 from Cork to Dublin (Ireland) with 164 passengers and 6 crew, was cleared for takeoff from Cork's runway 17. When the aircraft began its takeoff roll, a police car holding on runway 17 short of runway 07/25 recognized the conflict and accelerated to vacate runway 17 onto runway 07/25. While the Boeing accelerated through 90 knots the Ryanair crew spotted the car already disappearing onto runway 07/25 and clear of runway 17, so that they continued the takeoff. The Boeing reached Dublin for a safe landing.
The Irish AAIU have released their final report concluding the probable cause was:
Take-off clearance was issued to a B737 on RWY 17 while an Operations vehicle was holding as cleared at the intersection of RWY 17-25.
1. Situational awareness with regard to the position of Police 1 vehicle was temporarily lost by the Air Movement Controller (AMC) despite a visual scan being made of the runway prior to clearing the B737 for take-off.
2. The Police 1 vehicle was difficult to see from the tower at the time of the incident due a combination of vehicle colour and profile, the wet conditions on the runway, and rain on the tower windows. The framing around the glass may also have contributed to the vehicle being obscured.
3. Removal of the ‘Runway Occupied’ strip holder from the active flight progress board when Electrician 1 was clear may have reinforced the belief that the runway was clear.
4. The use of a different communication frequency by vehicles and aircraft while occupying the same active runway.
During the shift the surface movement controller (SMC), also known as ground controller, received a phone call on family matters the natureo f which the AAIU understood was distressing. The SMC subsequently requested relief from his position and upon approval by the Air Movement Controller (AMC), also known as tower controller, left his position. The AMC covered both tower and ground frequency during the SMC's relief break. Workload for the AMC was light at that time.
The Ryanair crew requested startup, a few seconds later a vehicle "Electrician 1" was cleared to enter runway 17 to perform work at the threshoold, a runway occupied strip was properly placed on the strip board. A light aircraft had been doing circuits around runway 17 and was switched to do circuits on runway 25 to cater for the pending departure of the 737.
40 seconds after the Ryanair requested startup another vehicle "Police 1" transmitting on ground frequency requested to enter runway 17 for a runway inspection with the intention to turn onto runway 25 and continue towards the threshold of runway 07. Police 1, a white saloon type vehicle with an amber rotating beacon at its top, was cleared to enter runway 17 and hold short of runway 07/25 because of the light aircraft in the pattern runway 25.
2 minutes later another light aircraft and another commercial departure requested startup, the Ryanair 737 requested taxi for departure. The Boeing was cleared to taxi towards the holding point of runway 17, the AMC then called "Electrician 1" to vacate the runway and reported clear of the runway 5 minutes after the 737 had requested startup. As a result the AMC removed the "Runway Occupied" strip from the strip board.
A minute later the 737 reported on tower frequency and was cleared to line up and wait. The AMC scanned the runway, did not notice "Police 1" still holding on runway 17 short and just north of runway 07/25 due to the colouring of the vehicle and rain on the tower windows, and cleared the Ryanair Boeing for takeoff about one minute after the line up and wait clearance. At that time there had been no communication with Police 1 for about 4 minutes.
16 seconds after the takeoff clearance the police car sped onto runway 07 to vacate runway 17 and reported to do so on ground frequency.
The commander of EI-EBE spotted the car while the 737 accelerated through 90 knots. The car had already turned onto runway 07 and was clear of runway 17, so that the crew continued their takeoff. The AAIU reported the distance between the vehicle and aircraft had been 700 meters/2300 feet just prior to the conflict being resolved.
Immediately after the incident the SMC was recalled to the tower and replaced the AMC according to incident procedures. A replacement SMC on duty in the general office was called to assist and arrived some time later. The incident was reported to the operations manager without a delay and an occurrence report was filed.
The AMC said, that the Police 1 vehicle was difficult to see due to its colouring, low profile, wet conditions and rain on the tower windows. View of the vehicle may also have been obscured by one of the pillars of the tower cab.
The driver of Police 1 said he became aware that the engines of the Boeing 737 accelerated and decided to speed off onto runway 07 to vacate runway 17. He then reported on ground frequency to do so, his report was acknowledged by the AMC.
The AAIU analysed, that the workload of the AMC increased a few minutes after the SMC began his relief break, the workload remained manageable however contributed to the level of distraction to the AMC.
"Police 1" was on ground frequency and could not hear the takeoff clearance.
After Electrician 1 had entered the runway the runway occupied strip was properly placed on the strip board, and was removed after Electrician 1 vacated the runway, the removal was in error however as Police 1 having entered the runway at a later stage was still on the runway.
Internal investigations of the Irish Aviation Authority issued 9 safety recommendations including mandating ground vehicles now being required to monitor both ground and tower frequencies at all times and are using the tower frequency to transmit when entering/vacating runways. Another recommendation was to require controllers maintain a record of all vehicle operations on the runway for ease of reference and to assist in hand overs. Those 9 recommendations were all accepted and implemented, so that the AAIU did not see a need to issue further safety recommendations.
Última edición por vicenreigd; 28/04/2011 a las 12:54 Razón: Post duplicados unidos automáticamente
- 28/04/2011, 13:06 #10
Entiendo que el RYR iba detrás del 767? Si es así hay una distancia de seguridad que respetar, no?
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